Game Maker 8 Upgrades..Part 1
10 Jun, 2009
Whilst we haven’t as yet decided on our broad policy of what/if/how you upgrade from GM7 to GM8 I want to start clarifying what we HAVE decided. Anybody who has purchased GM7 after June 1st 2009 will DEFINITELY get a FREE UPGRADE.
Mark and I are meeting in the next couple of weeks to lock down on final features and a timetable for GM8, after which I expect to be able to give you more information.
Meantime anyone buying GM7 NOW will get a free upgrade to GM 8 regardless of the outstanding decisions we still have to make on availability.
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June 10th, 2009 at 9:14 am
Very cool, this is good news!
June 10th, 2009 at 9:17 am
will the compiler be patched, and working, for proper compiling and using a stand alone copy so we can test the .exe and with out getting any errors we didn’t have in the stand alone .exe? that’s a major bug.
June 10th, 2009 at 10:17 am
Mmmm. I asked this question before I purchased my copy of GameMaker 7.0 Pro about a month ago, so I hope I’m not going to miss out on the free upgrade. I can’t wait for GM8!
June 10th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
Soo… We only get gm8 if we bought pro un June?
June 10th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
I’m very excited for the next version of game maker, especially for those that are trying to make games and that need special effects that game make will soon have.
I hope that the transition goes smoothly.
June 10th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
[...] much discussion by users of the software Sandy Duncan has given the first glimpse into who will have to pay for an upgraded version of Game Maker 8 when it is released later this [...]
June 10th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
No… I’m not sure if i’m going to buy pro for 8. Why did you changed? I hate it!
June 10th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
I noticed at one point you changed the price for pro 7 from 20 to 25 $ US. I think if you gave the free upgrade to those who paid for 25$ that would be a fairly good decision.
June 10th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
Sigh… I’m really exited and all about the release of this but I don’t want to pay again… I think I’ll keep using GM7. I’m not gonna pay again.
June 10th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
i think im going to stop GM! why should i pay twice for a program, that gets a bit better?!
June 10th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
What on earth is with all you morons refusing to pay again? How many other programs do you know of that let you upgrade for free? Not many. YoYo is spending money to make GM 8, why shouldn’t we spend money to get it? To respond to Jasper, why shouldn’t you pay again to get the new features of a new version? It’s not that much. Compared to other professional tools, it’s nothing. GM 8, I’m guessing, will have Mac support and a new image editor in even the Lite edition. Don’t think of it as re-buying the Pro features, think of it as buying the new features to add to your Pro version.
June 10th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
If nothing change, then we will see GM8 in 2010 or in 2011, so why we are worrying about paying for something, that maybe never come out?
June 10th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
Yoyo, It’s good to see you guys offering it for free to new buyers because technically you didn’t even have to do that, but it shows you are trying to do something good.
I appreciate GM for what it is and I’d like to thank you all for your hard work. It seems over here and over at the GMC a lot of the younger crowd … are complaining as usual about having to pay for GM8. GM8 isn’t even out and people are saying why pay twice for the same thing … first off tell me how you got to test it out already and I haven’t, and secondly can you send me a copy so I can see if it’s the same as GM7? Then maybe I can complain too
Yoyo, Just know there are some of us out here that understand the logic of getting paid to work. I look forward to version 8 and I will absolutely pay for it.
June 10th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
Also … I think Rusky has said things perfectly. I suggest all the people who don’t understand the concept of why things cost money in life should read his comment. Maybe even three times.
June 10th, 2009 at 7:04 pm
Whoever pays the $25 should get the upgrade free.
Whoever pays the $20 should pay the extra $5 for an upgrade.
You should also offer gm5 and 6 keys
June 10th, 2009 at 7:07 pm
I can tell you i am willing to repay $25 for the mac version.
June 10th, 2009 at 7:14 pm
what if we have gm7.0pro for only one computer and we still have a second computer to add it to?
can gm7pro games work with gm 8?
June 10th, 2009 at 7:52 pm
Why do we have to buy another key, if we already bought the older Game Maker? If Yoyo can’t find another way to get rid of the users who have a cracked version, I think it’s very sad.
June 10th, 2009 at 7:53 pm
I bought GM 7.0 Pro a few months ago. (Two, maybe two and a half.) I personally think that it would be unfair if I had to pay again to get GM 8.0 Pro. I of course realize that you, the people at YoYoGames, haven’t made a final decision yet as to what the exact ‘rules’ will be concerning who will get GM 8.0 Pro for free and who won’t, but I hope these ‘rules’ will not be too strict. I would be disappointed if I would find out I bought GM 7.0 Pro for…well, nothing. Or should I say $25,-? You get the point. I hope.
My suggestion is that everybody who has bought GM 7.0 Pro in 2009 should get GM 8.0 Pro. But that’s just me.
June 10th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
People, seriously stop complaining! It’s very cheap for software, don’t EXPECT a free upgrade.
If you bought Office 2005, and a couple weeks later Microsoft introduced Office 2007, do you expect a free upgrade? No. It doesn’t work like that.
Stop whining about this, it really is cheap in comparison to other software.
June 10th, 2009 at 8:40 pm
I don’t think there’s really any reason to give away ANY copies just becuase someone has Pro GM7. Do you think you should get a free book or game because you bought an earlier one in the series the day before it came out?
Selling Gamemaker is several people’s primary source of income. Do you think they shouldn’t eat for a day so you can get it for free? You wouldn’t complain if GM8 was just another overpriced first person shooter, would you? And now when they’re saying they’re going to give something away, you do.
June 10th, 2009 at 9:27 pm
@MrJackSparrow2 but I know at least half year before, thatn new Office comes out.
New Game Maker may never comes out…
June 10th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
As with any new version of Game Maker, no one is forcing people to use it. So please stop complaining that you have to pay for GM8.
Oh, and give my regards to Microsoft when you complain to them about having to pay for Windows 7.
June 10th, 2009 at 9:38 pm
firesoul453 is right. Even if he isn’t, why argue over something as simple as this. I know a lot of people who shouldn’t be able to buy Game Maker Pro. This will make it harder to obtain, which IS a good thing.
June 10th, 2009 at 9:44 pm
PROJECT PIGEON,
You said you would be disappointed if you bought GM7 for nothing. You bought GM7 … not GM8. Should I be disappointed I bought a 2008 truck when I knew that the 2009 trucks were just a few weeks away at that time ? No. I made a choice just like you did. I’m not ranting on you … I’m just throwing you a different angle to look at.
Here’s a thought, let’s say you start a game development studio. Let’s say you make a game that is worthy of a sequel. Will that sequel and all other sequels be free? According to your statements that’s the perceived idea. This kind of logic will have your company broke and dead in the water in no time because you would spend money developing all the titles but would have only been paid for the original title.
Now how stupid does that sound?
June 10th, 2009 at 10:05 pm
Well, personally I was thinking of donating xD. I really love this program and without any doubts I’m going to pay for this piece of cheap software.
Well nobody forces you to buy GM8, you can go on using GM v.X if you want. I wished everybody used at least v7 because I got a Vista.
June 10th, 2009 at 10:46 pm
Great news, is their any word on the price?
June 10th, 2009 at 11:48 pm
whenever i bought 7 i got jewed into paying more than i needed to because you guys are not always grammatically clear. and when i sent an email complaining about it i got no response. please make the upgrade free for all who have already paid. i have my ways of using good features without using all the extras i paid for but that didnt stop me from paying for it. and how can i know if it will be worth paying for without paying for it (AGAIN!!!) first? after all its my friggin birthday this month and ive never had a good one.
June 10th, 2009 at 11:49 pm
I agree with Project Pidgeons, I payed for GM7 Pro just a few days (Or weeks) before June 1, Why should I have to pay again?
June 10th, 2009 at 11:50 pm
EDIT: Saw the Jess Horton comment, Forget the above comment.
June 11th, 2009 at 12:02 am
I personally think that you should pay for the new software, which is one reason why I haven’t upgraded from GM6 yet.
Will Yoyo still support GM6 files, or will I eventually have to upgrade?
June 11th, 2009 at 12:05 am
@edit: It is cheap to begin with, which is why I use OpenOffice, and the GM6 version is as effective as the GM7, and, possibly, the GM8.
The only one which I don’t recommend using is GM1. It doesn’t even create .exe files.
June 11th, 2009 at 12:08 am
To play devil’s advocate
Yoyo did allow all who had a GM6 code to get GM7 code for free, so why shouldn’t they do the same with GM8?
June 11th, 2009 at 12:52 am
Ok ok my first thoughts were free if you payed 25 but thanks to project pigeon . paying more doesn’t sound to be unreasonable
One thing though I’ve seen this with lots of Microsoft products .. you dont have to pay for the entire thing again . instead you pay a UPGRADE price. not as much as the full product but you still pay for what you get that’s new. I’m think’n 10-15 $$ sounds nice, meanwhile those who haven’t bought it yet at all could be paying 30-35+
Besides people who want all there money back and refuse to pay more are the reasons why small companies stay small. if a business wants to expand they need to get there money from somewhere. I doubt that nobody can really not pay another 20 or so really..
June 11th, 2009 at 1:45 am
fenyxofshadows “second comment”,
Valid point and completely understandable! I say we were lucky for that … kinda like finding a twenty dollar bill I suppose. Just cause you found one in the street yesterday doesn’t mean you will again today
timlbs,
Happy birthday whenever that may be this month. On a side note, I suppose no one will know if GM8 is worth it’s out. Let it come out and then see what everyone is saying about it first … then make the choice. Like I said before … everyone is getting bent out of shape and it isn’t even here yet. It’s possible it might not be worth it and in such a case most will keep what they have GM6 or GM7.
That’s my two cents which may be worth more or less
June 11th, 2009 at 2:13 am
Well, I bought my key with GM6.1, so I’ll be paying again. However, even if I got a free upgrade, I’d probably pay for the upgrade again. I’ve had hours of fun for 3 years with Game Maker, and for only $20, so spending another $25, or more ($40, $50?) I’ll do gladly.
Obj_solid: That’s a good point. However, Game Maker is currently being sold for $25, what someone working at McDonalds can make in 2 or 3 hours. Having an upgrade fee for an already very cheap program seems very silly, in my mind. Sure, if the program costs $120, then maybe maying an upgrade fee of $40 may make more sense… But, when we’re talking $25 bucks for the whole thing, whats the point!?
Looking forward to GM8!
June 11th, 2009 at 3:05 am
$25.
So much fighting over $25.
The same people who’ll buy the newest game for $60.
The same kind of people who’ll buy multiple game consoles just so that they can say they have them.
$25, people. It’s not going to bankrupt you. At the very least, it’ll mean you’ll have to wait another week before buying Diablo III or Starcraft II.
The amount of whining over $25 is insane.
June 11th, 2009 at 3:14 am
Maybe by the time GM8 comes out, I’ll have moved onto C++. Missing out on features because I can’t get a free upgrade is the perfect opportunity to do so.
I kind of see both sides of the issue. I see why people who bought it after June 1st should get a free upgrade. They haven’t had it very long. How would you like it if you bought a program, and then right after you bought it, an update came out that you had to pay for? As for the rest of us, it makes sense and doesn’t make sense if we have to pay again. It makes sense because it’s not a big upgrade fee, and YYG has to keep itself running somehow. It doesn’t make sense because the program is only $25 (used to be $20). You’re not paying an upgrade fee, but you’re buying a new license instead. If the upgrade fee is like $5, it would make sense, since we all paid $20 for it (with the exception of recent buyers).
If you don’t like it, go and get a free upgrade to C++. There are plenty of free compilers and online tutorials out there.
June 11th, 2009 at 3:20 am
I find it kinda funny how in the GMC topic everybody wants to pay for a new version, and now people want it for free.
June 11th, 2009 at 6:34 am
I don’t understand what you are trying to do.
The upgrade from GM6 to GM7 was free, so why not this one?
Why are you punishing us for buying Game Maker 7 earlier than other people by making people who buy it after June 1st get a free upgrade?
Also, the only NEW features included in Game Maker 8 seem to be the support of alpha channels in .png files. What was hard about using image_alpha and blend_mode?
I’m going to wait for GMK8 to come out, get the lite version, and if I see that the only thing that has significantly changed is the sprite editor, I simply won’t buy it. Adobe 3SC is good enough for me!
And no, NAL or Nailog, I am not complaining about the $25 bucks. That kind of money is easy to come up with, and I agree that complaining about that amount is just silly, I think it’s the point that we have to pay AGAIN that ticks most of us off.
~Slammer
June 11th, 2009 at 6:39 am
Also, there is nothing FREE here, it’s a win-win situation for YYG and Overmars as it doesn’t matter what GMK version you have, you still have to buy it.
[quote]Anybody who has purchased GM7 after June 1st 2009 will DEFINITELY get a FREE UPGRADE.[/quote]
People who buy GMK7 after June first are not getting a FREE UPGRADE. They are paying for GMK8 Pro just earlier than the rest of us, and are getting GMK 7 Pro for a little while.
June 11th, 2009 at 6:58 am
If it’s worth it to you buy it,
if not don’t,
but sniveling about it is uncool.
I bought Pro YESTERDAY and would pay another $25 or more in a second when 8 is available. To me, this is one of the best software deals I have ever seen!
June 11th, 2009 at 7:50 am
Although I can’t see myself upgrading to GM8 if I need to pay to upgrade. I still can’t wait to hear about all the features GameMaker 8 will include.
Can’t wait to hear more
June 11th, 2009 at 9:42 am
@Slammin Sam ; “Also, the only NEW features included in Game Maker 8 seem to be the support of alpha channels in .png files.”
That’s pretty cool that you already know what’s in GM8 before even Mark and Sandy have decided on what they want.
“Mark and I are meeting in the next couple of weeks to lock down on final features and a timetable for GM8, after which I expect to be able to give you more information.”
Next time, read the glog post.
“I’m going to wait for GMK8 to come out, get the lite version, and if I see that the only thing that has significantly changed is the sprite editor, I simply won’t buy it.”
Good. That’s the mature thing to do. Repeating the mantra “but why not for free” is not.
June 11th, 2009 at 10:11 am
can I expect a Game Maker 8 version for windows vista and windows 7 and xp coming out at any time soon?
Along with the bugs I found in it fixed up?
why not have GM8.0 on windows vista and xp and windows 7 as well as mac instead of only on one new platform?
plus more audience in it for you and thus more money.
mrsmes,
June 11th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
@Nailog: “Also, the only NEW features included in Game Maker 8 seem to be the support of alpha channels in .png files.” Read peoples posts properly Nailog, notice the words “seem to be”. Mark could have told us what the new features are GOING to be. Sure there might be a new interface, and a couple more buttons around the place, but I think that the MAIN FEATURE of GMK8 will be the New Sprite Editor. So, I didn’t say that I already new what GMK8’s features where, you just presumed that.
Also, I read the Glog post several times so stop presuming I didn’t. How would I quote the glog post if I didn’t read it in the first place?
Nailog, I think the mature thing for YOU to do would be to stop harassing everyone about the smallest things that they write in their posts. People are ALOUD to complain about the price, they have the RIGHT to state their opinion, and they shouldn’t have to put up with being put down on a public site, that’s just cruel.
June 11th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
That’s what happens when the luxury of free upgrades is provided for a long period of time. It somehow fools the younger users into believing its some sort of right.. well it isn’t. People pay for new major versions all the time.
And for those saying they won’t “pay again”.. seriously?
And I know some say “some dont have $25 to spare”.. But the truth is, most of those who own a PC (on which to use GM) will most probably be capable of spending $25. And if you’re young, then ask for your parents to upgrade just like you asked them to register in the first place, chances are they have $25 to spare.
June 11th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
In my opinion, I believe that there should be a system where you can upgrade your version, regardless of when you bought 7.0 Pro. This is because 8.0’s new features will attract other consumers, so really there should be no need to buy it again. If this didn’t make sense, then you haven’t read it properly.
June 11th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
Brilliant, i am going to get GM7 now.
June 11th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
I REALLY want GM8 to be free for users who have already paid… I want GM8, but I’m not sure if I’ll get it if I have to pay again. Well, it depends on how much have been updated and fixed in GM8.
June 11th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
i really dont want to pay again, so im not going to but Gm8. but i agree, i want a free upgrade, but it makes sense to not to give free upgrades. my only concern is with yoyogames instantplay site. heres how it works.
i make games in 3d that require pro.
I am not going to but pro Gm8
right not yoyogames instantplay can only play Gm7 and Gm6 games. what if when they get to Gm9 and i wouldve spent (if i bought both 7,8,9 gms) a total of around 80$)
but for those like me who dont buy gm8 and gm9 comes out, will gm7 be able to be used in instantplay? that bugs me.
i love the yyg comps and your game has to be instantplay though. so what if in comp 07 i try to enter, but cant bcuz instantplay wont play gm7 games.
i dont want free gm8 i just want instantplay on yyg to play all versions 1-8 (or at least gm5-gm (8 and more later))
3dpursuit
June 11th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
Nailog Says:
June 11th, 2009 at 3:05 am
$25.
So much fighting over $25.
The same people who’ll buy the newest game for $60.
The same kind of people who’ll buy multiple game consoles just so that they can say they have them.
$25, people. It’s not going to bankrupt you. At the very least, it’ll mean you’ll have to wait another week before buying Diablo III or Starcraft II.
The amount of whining over $25 is insane.
i agree with you Nailog (for once) just thought this post should be bumped up. For the record, i own an original xbox and a ds. i have like 5 games for each. i dont complain? but what bothers me reminds me of you guys. those spoiled kids who go o! the xbox came out buy it! bought. xbox360! buy it! bought. xbox much later came out buy it!…. noone complained about not getting a free 360 for owning a normal.
the most realisitic is where you could trade in a ds for dsi at gamestop but still. just shut up about the free ness. instantplay is our bigger problem as i said above.
June 11th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
or you could have a smaller price for the new updates
(Use you activation code then at the bottom you could have one saying like code for game maker 8s new features then type a second
June 11th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
or i could get a crave case from white castle
June 11th, 2009 at 7:13 pm
Ill gladly pay again, i paid for gm6 years ago. As long as it’s a significant upgrade over gm7 ill pay the price.
June 11th, 2009 at 7:47 pm
i have paid enough money for game maker already , I had to buy game maker 7 like 5 times because of errors with registering and my computer braking so I would want the convert from GM7 to GM8 to be free because I don’t want to pay again for something that isn’t going to be that different to the game maker I have got.
June 11th, 2009 at 8:54 pm
I do not like the idea, but can understand from what others have been saying, what I am going to do, is when gm8 comes out, i will download the lite version and look at it to see if there is alot that has changed or not. If I deem it as worth it, i will make the switch over, or i will stay with GM7
June 11th, 2009 at 9:10 pm
THIS SUCKS! If i dont get a free update from 7 to 8 then that sucks! Thats why I got game maker. Because I thought you guys where in it to have fun. But now its all about the money. Stuff You!
June 11th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
I’ll defiantly pay for it if there’s NO DRM. I’m not buying anything that I don’t truly own, however.
Please drop the Softwrap crud. Pirates cracked it within the first day anyway, and I hear that it doesn’t have all of the problems that the version you actually pay for has.
June 11th, 2009 at 10:23 pm
@cjschrissouth: its not “all about the money”.. its about *not* going backrupt for god’s sake!
June 11th, 2009 at 10:39 pm
Game Maker is worth $25. I payed that alone back in 2003 for version 4, before it turned into 5. If anyone has some years of real programming experience they’ll know it has a really great GUI. Also, it fulfills most of the Windows API that most users will need(with the exception of 3D) when making 2D games in general. It does a lot for not having a tone of licensing agreements and payoffs after paying that big ticket between $5000-???????(with needing those extra utilities).
However, I can understand some of the concerns that other users may have. When having to pay-per-bug-fixes, and minor tweaks that aren’t really necessarily justifying a new version.
Other than the possibility of the latter, it gives a world for a grain of salt at this point in its life.
Even though, its a far par from the way Mark used to do it, in GM’s earlier systemics(until the end of 6, before upgrading). There are more expenses for server and storage surrounding version 7… and will be for 8.(I am sure.)
June 11th, 2009 at 11:53 pm
Wow, a lot of replies here.
@Jess Horton : Thanks for replying. I see where you’re coming from and I think it is definitely hard to decide who should get GM 8.0 Pro for free and who shouldn’t. The people behind GameMaker need to earn a living too, I get that. And I am grateful some people, possibly me too, are going to get GM 8.0 Pro for free.
The only reason I’m ‘complaining’, (again, I’m grateful and really enjoy GameMaker), is that GM 8.0 isn’t exactly a big update, like the example you gave of a sequel to a videogame. I switched from 6.0 to 7.0 and barely noticed any difference at all. (It’s obviously there though, but the fact that it’s barely noticable should tell you enough about the impact of the updates.) In other words, I don’t feel like paying yet another $25,- for a few extra functions, when I just payed $25,- a few months ago.
@Nailog: You’re right, but try to consider that to some people, $25,- is more than to others. Especially if you just spend $25,- already, like me. I’m going to college soon, I need me my money!
But the amount of whining over $25,- is indeed a bit insane. I can only hope I’ll get it for free; I’ll accept whatever deal (or lack of one) I’m given.
June 12th, 2009 at 12:37 am
it’s not just about fun they need money to continue to make fun, and besides if your suggesting tycoon work here I know far bigger tycoons, that I battle every day to me this is a business in the making.
June 12th, 2009 at 4:48 am
Let me tell you all what I think. I have used Game Maker since version 4.3.
I have by far, spent more hours than is healthy writing scripts with Game Maker over the years. I have gotten waaaay more out of this simple program than many, many other things, such as: World of Warcraft (~$12 a month? No thank you), McAfee Firewall/Antivirus, my awesome water bottle, an IMAX viewing of Transformers 2007, my electric mandolin, my calculus textbook (as you know, these are pricey: over $100 for a used copy), etc. The list goes on.
I think Game Maker was one of the best investments I ever made.
June 12th, 2009 at 8:49 am
Well…I never thought I’d see me agreeing with @mrsmes…but he’s right…
…I’m not adding anything, but I think I would struggle to beat what @mrpete says in post comment #61
June 12th, 2009 at 10:52 am
to be honest i thought when i bought gm 7 at 2008 i will be able to get all entire gm future versions free, now i feel if i pay later like june2009 will be perfect price for both programs (GM7-8), it’s kind cheering people to wait longer than get the product early.
BTW : money is not my problem since gamemaker better than rpg maker and cheaper which rpgmakers always ask a new pay for each versions came out, but im a person who have expired net card and lazy to renew it in my summer.
good luck for yoyogames with GM8
June 12th, 2009 at 11:58 am
Hi I have bought it in May the GM7.Can I please take for free gm8.It’s a pity for only one month that I have purchased gm7 and now i cant take the gm8 for free,so please if i could take it for free PLEASE!
June 12th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
*Thank you* for letting us know what’s happening with GM8! I very much look forward to seeing the feature list for GM8!
As for the GM7 bought now = GM8 free thing there’s something I think most of you are missing:
YoYo are doing that to ensure that people who buy GM7 *from now on* get GM8 “free”. It’s not meant as a free upgrade to people who have bought GM7 over the last few months – it’s meant to give people who might be holding off buying GM, to buy it without fear – rather than waiting & waiting.
Seems like a very good move to me, (tho I think it should only apply to purchases from the moment of this post onwards, to be fair). Also, I strongly think this information should be posted on the GM Community forums where it will be visible to a lot more people.
Anyway… keep up the good work YoYo & keep the info coming!
Any news on what’s happening with Comp5?
June 12th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
something that would quiet those that have already paid for GM7.0 would be charging less money for GM8.0 if they bought GM7.0 instead of giving it to them for free, that way it doesn’t bankrupt the company so they can continue to make more gamemaker versions, and keep customers happy, because they just want acknowledgment for committing to this before the rest. I personally would pay 25$ to help yoyogames get a new version.in an unrelated comment, I suppose your thinking of holding back comp05 for when GM 8 comes out, I would not do that, because your taking away the competition to really test what people have learned in GM7 and who deserves a free one should that be a prize, the competition should have the theme of something that requires variety, e.g. something that makes GM users make a platform/3d/racing/maze/other game with all those functions, just a suggestion
June 12th, 2009 at 11:43 pm
I guess whether we should pay or not depends on how big of a change is between GM7 and GM8. If the only major update in GM8 is a fancy new sprite editor, it’s a bit ridiculous to ask for another $25. Maybe a smaller upgrade fee would be reasonable, or giving it out for free for anyone with GM7. But, if it’s a big update, such as enhanced speed, the fancy sprite editor, bug fixes, and tons of other features, it might be worth it.
Still, the people at YYG have to make a living somehow, and if they have to charge an update fee in order to ensure that they stay in business, tough. It’s their program, and if you don’t like it, go find another game making program or learn C++ and the DirectX or OpenGL API.
June 13th, 2009 at 4:46 am
You people don’t know half the new features in GM8.
Cut your whinging. From what I know, the (new) software is worth far more than the $25 your complaining about. If you knew what I knew, you’d be complaining that you’re not paying enough.
I’ll be upgrading to the next version regardless of what the price is.
June 13th, 2009 at 5:09 am
Lol, YoYoGames gives away 1000s of dollars to you people through competitions, supplies you with some of the best game dev software on the market, and definitely has the most caring support team I’ve ever seen in a product and all you care about is not wanting to give them $25 for a new version? Ungrateful. Would you rather get the game for free and have to pay 10x as much to use the forums, website, tech-support, wiki, enter competitions, etc? I think not.
June 13th, 2009 at 8:21 am
damn to anyone who bought it on the 31st of may lol
June 13th, 2009 at 10:28 am
Yeah, I have to say its’s kinda amazing the amount of people who expect Gm8 for free. I mean *really*. 25$ is *nothing* for what you are actually getting. Other game creation programs cost *a lot* more than that. If the new features aren’t enough to justify a 25$ spend for you, then fine you can stick with GM7 – no-one’s forcing you to upgrade. But 25$ is really a very reasonable price! Personally, I wouldn’t hesitate to buy even at double that… but I am very curious about what actual new features are in GM8, & how long they’ll take to program in… guess we’ll know in a few weeks.
June 13th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
hach-que said: “If you knew what I knew, you’d be complaining that you’re not paying enough.”
Why don’t you tell us what you know?
margoose3 said: “YoYoGames gives away 1000s of dollars to you people through competitions, supplies you with some of the best game dev software on the market, and definitely has the most caring support team I’ve ever seen in a product and all you care about is not wanting to give them $25 for a new version? Ungrateful.”
We ARE the game creators. We supply YYG with all the games that people play. They supply us with the software to make the games. Shouldn’t these cancel each other out, I mean, If we didn’t make any games…then YYG would never have grown so much, and it wouldn’t be the site it is now. If $25 is such a small amount….why don’t they give it to the GM7 Pro users for free?
dadio said: “Other game creation programs cost *a lot* more than that.”
That’s because those game creation programs can make better games. They are more for serious Commercial Game Designers. Gamemaker can do a lot for such a simple program, and I think that $25 is a great price for getting the pro version. It’s the inconvenience of paying again that is causing this whining.
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Instead of having a set date which determines whether you get GMK8 Pro for free or not, why not make it the amount of time the user has had GMK7 Pro. This is a lot fairer for users who bought it 1 month ago, or 31st of May (lol).
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I think the defining thing in the end that determines whether someone will pay again for GM8 Pro, will be how much GM8 differs from GM7.
~Slammer
June 13th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
yup, well i gotta agree with whoever said that people who’ve already paid $20 for gm7 should just pay the remaining $5. not the whole $25.
you know, some of us might just well be bankrupt and that $25 is for our next meal. come on, you never know.
besides guys, theres this new thing called stencyl…
June 13th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
Slammin Sam, You said … “That’s because those game creation programs can make better games”.
I absolutely disagree. Game creation programs don’t make good games … people with talent and skill make good games.
Now your very last comment I agree with “I think the defining thing in the end that determines whether someone will pay again for GM8 Pro, will be how much GM8 differs from GM7″. This is exactly why every kid here needs to relax and wait since they have no idea what is in store for GM8.
You guys should understand that Yoyo owes us nothing. If there wasn’t GM where would you guys do all your whining.
June 13th, 2009 at 7:07 pm
Agree 100% with above post.
Just would like to add that if the new features are good, then i think everyone will upgrade regardless of anything.
2 things strike me as things that people are crying out for:
1. Ability to embed in our own sites
2. Physics solution included
Perhaps an additional “Professional/Commercial” verison of GM8 could be made that included these 2 things? I for one would be willing to pay an extra 100 Euro or so for those features.
Now, I’ll shut up & patiently wait for more official info.
June 13th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
Dadio, although the 2nd one doesn’t sound too difficult to add (although it would take time to add built in GM physics functionality), the first one is almost definitely not going to happen.
Game Maker uses exe’s and a large amount of windows functionality. It wouldn’t be simple just to turn it into something that can be run on your browser.
If it’s something you really feel the need to do, just use the Yoyo Games website, or go with GMbed.
June 14th, 2009 at 12:07 am
Cool… I’ve had GM 4, 5, 6, and 7… the program is ‘evolving’ and the new features added at each level is worth it! I payed $165. TT for my key and won’t mind paying for GM8 once I get a review of it knowing all the new features… seeing a couple of game examples. So even if it comes out in June… I won’t buy GM8 maybe until October/November. In that way I can really see what it can do (different from GM7 Pro)and if I need the new features then I’ll get GM8. We all have to wait and see what it has to offer… and it really a matter of choice…
June 14th, 2009 at 12:31 am
comment76:”you know, some of us might just well be bankrupt and that $25 is for our next meal. come on, you never know.”, your so selfish, If your really that poor you don’t need this, its a luxury iteam, besides what about yoyogames going bankrupt? I bet all of you who are whining will buy it anyway, your just so greedy you just want to save X$
June 14th, 2009 at 1:23 am
Jess Horton Said: “Game creation programs don’t make good games … people with talent and skill make good games.”
But the game creators will be limited by how good the game creation program is. Take this example. Imagine if Bungie created Halo with Gamemaker. Do you think that it would be as good as it is now? No. I do agree with you though, it does depend on how good you are at creating games as well.
nilotech said: “even if it comes out in June… I won’t buy GM8 maybe until October/November.” I agree with this. What if GM8 comes out and then they find a huge glitch? Waiting is a good idea so then you can find out what other people say about it.
@aether777: Global Economic Crisis. Lol. Also C.76 wasn’t saying HE was poor. He was looking out for other people that might be.
To me, Gamemaker is like water. I can’t survive without it.
~Slammer
June 14th, 2009 at 2:16 am
yes, if bungie was given gamemaker and the budget they had, it would likely be the same quality, just as if anyone here were given a xbox devkit, they would not be able to make a halo quality game
June 14th, 2009 at 3:09 am
I disagree. Gamemaker would never be able to make such a huge game like Halo. In fact, No one has ever made a huge commercial profit for a game made in Gamemaker.
No Gamemaker game could match the great 3d of Halo, and run smoothly at the same time. Don’t forget the great AI as well. And the massive online games.
Most big game companies these days, make their OWN game designing programs, sometimes just for that one game.
June 14th, 2009 at 3:38 am
Always the Halo argument, no matter where you go.
As “tksl” said, it doesn’t matter what kind of development environment YOU were given, you’d NEVER be able to recreate Halo. Halo was built by hundreds of people, spending thousands of manhours working on the game. It is physically impossible to match that amount of work with just one person.
Game companies can spend millions developing the environment for their game. Other companies spend hundreds of thousands of dollars licensing these engines from big companies like ID, Valve, Blizzard, Westwood (EA), Crytek, Bioware, and others.
It is no longer possible for individuals to create triple-A commercial titles. However, independent games can still be successful. Games like Braid, World of Goo, and various iPhone games have been rather successful. In the right hands, those are certainly doable with Game Maker.
But thinking any hobbyist / independent developer can match Halo is fallacy.
June 14th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
what about people who have purchased the game gamers apprentice? how much stuff have you changed that wont be valid from the book. are you going to release another version of the book to match version 8?
June 14th, 2009 at 7:51 pm
You could probably make as good of a game with Gamemaker as you could with a program that costs hundreds of dollars. The difference is that with the more expensive programs you can make quality high games with lots more ease.
GM8 would definitely be worth the money if you didn’t have GM7 pro. We have yet to find out if it will be worth the money to upgrade from GM7. I think a discount for those who have GM7 would be best solution, because not everybody has $25 dollars just laying around.
June 14th, 2009 at 8:40 pm
Slammin Sam, tksl, and Nailog:-on comments 83,84,85. I can sympathize with those comments a bit. But I really think you should re-read those. They’re very subjective… “Without those engine’s, great games cannot be made????” “And a single person with an Good 3D engine couldn’t make a GOOD(triple A???) game???” I’m not en sitting an argument. And I am not saying your points don’t have weight. But really.. If people had that attitude. There wouldn’t be computers or those engines, or GM,, or games for that fact! The human spirit is a very tricky thing. Never underestimate it!(:D)Even though, this is getting off the original glog subject. In GM’s defense it’s primarily a 2D game development system. I am grateful for the 3D support that has been incorporated into it. And to the other DLL’s that have given OpenGL support as well.
Again, Im not trying to argue with you’s. Their valid points( Just a little IF-THEN for me). But come on, give yourselves better credit than that.
June 14th, 2009 at 8:45 pm
You just can’t keep everyone happy can you. YoYo Games just announced that people that buy GM7 in June and later times get GM8 for free, yet many people still class it as unfair?
They can do:
1. Give it away for free to anyone who has a legit Game Maker 7 Pro, which will result in longer development time, and then have other people complaining that YoYo Games aren’t developing fast enough (yes the same people that complain about not getting a free upgrade).
2. They can leave it how it is, without letting anyone else upgrade for free. Resulting in people complain about the price (however they will gradually get over it), and then YoYo Games will probably be able to speed up the development process.
June 14th, 2009 at 9:00 pm
Umm… I am on the side of the people who think this entire debate is petty. Anyone who is complaining about not getting a free upgrade because “not everyone has $25 lying around”: you found $25 to buy GM7, didn’t you? And you didn’t complain that it was too expensive then, did you?
This is actually very cheap. Flash costs $800 to buy, and they don’t do Lite versions. Hell, some of the games on Yoyo cost about $25.
Finally, look at it this way: the more money YYG has, the better the site will be. More money might mean less irritating adverts; it might mean better server capacity and less problems with the connections; it might even mean more frequent competitions. Yoyo isn’t a charity.
And I don’t see the point in giving a reduced price to those who already have GM7. You really just want to feel better about having already paid for GM7; an extra $10 will not fundamentally change your existence. If you can afford a PC, you can afford GM8, no problem.
June 14th, 2009 at 10:23 pm
I’m not complaining about not getting a GM8 upgrade for free. I wish it were.(who doesn’t like free?) What I’m saying is that the difference between GM8 lite and pro would definitely be worth the $25. However the difference between GM7 pro and GM8 pro, might not be worth $25, but maybe $5 or $10. I will wait and see about the difference. If it’s worth it, I’ll get GM8 pro, if not, I’ll continue using GM7.
June 15th, 2009 at 1:27 am
Slammin Sammy, Well naturally I agree with your statement. I didn’t intend to say anything could be made with GM. I felt we were discussing similar packages to GM. Take Torque for example. I recently purchased it and I have to say it isn’t even close to as easy as GM. Sure it has a physics solution but you can get that in a dll with GM. It plays ogg and has some other goodies but again … a dll in GM solves that. Torque set me back 250 bucks and I’m not sure I’ll even use much because the scripting language is s*** … in my own opinion. For hobbyists like ourselves, GM can do what we need at a much lower price.
June 15th, 2009 at 4:05 am
WHAT!!!! I got Gm7 awhile back like a year or 2 ago and I will not get a free gm8 pro and i evan bought Gm7 Pro!!!!!!
June 15th, 2009 at 4:23 am
I agree with jess, gamemaker has the same ability to do anything any other game making program can, I bet if a couple of people worked together, they could make a physics system just like halo’s, and although the graphics would take some time to make, I’m sure you coul with some of those gamemaker extensions, and AI is really easy to make
June 15th, 2009 at 9:26 am
Nailog said: “Always the Halo argument, no matter where you go.”
I think I have brought up Halo twice in my time at YYG? It is an excellent example of a successful game.
Nailog said: “Halo was built by hundreds of people, spending thousands of manhours working on the game. It is physically impossible to match that amount of work with just one person.” and “But thinking any hobbyist / independent developer can match Halo is fallacy.”
You think I don’t know that? We weren’t talking about being able to create Halo on your own , we were talking about the programs that would be able to do so. Next time, read the posts.
@owt200: I’m interested. What is it and did you think purchasing this book was a good investment?
@Jess Horton: Lol, thx for that name call. ;P. I agree. There are A LOT of s*** game designing programs out there, and then there are those programs that can only do one sort of game. Gamemaker is a balanced, powerful and easy Game Designing program.
@schalk: Don’t you think it would be fairer if you got GM8 for free if you have had GM7 for a certain time? Say, 6 months? (I’ve had it for about a year.)
~Slammer
June 15th, 2009 at 9:36 am
Also, to all you Gamemakertarians who REALLY don’t want to spend $25 again, I bet that someone will have cracked it in 2 weeks.
Is there any news on whether GM8 will be more crack proof? ….or safer executables?
June 15th, 2009 at 11:40 am
That just sucks: So only GM noobs get the next and more advanced version for free!? What about those of us who have been using pro and supporting GM for YEARS??
June 15th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
*Sigh* a lot of you are still missing YoYo’s reasoning. They aren’t really giving GM8 “free” to anyone. They have probably noticed that almost no-one in the last while is buying GM7 because everyone is waiting for GM8. So new potential buyers aren’t buying anything. By saying people who buy GM7 NOW get GM8 “free” – what they really mean is “from now on, you can buy GM8 in advance”. It’s just a sensible move to keep the sales steady (especially considering it might be many months before GM8 is out).
@ Slammin’ Sam: more “crack proof”? Nothing is crack proof. Assuming YoYo go with any known “protection” system, it will be cracked quite quickly. Personally I’m just very much hoping for “protection” that doesn’t require an internet connection to validate & that is not so unstable.
As for the comments about Halo – they’re pointless because GM is not a 3D game making program. What I will say with some confidence tho is that any 2D game I’ve ever seen *could* be made with GM – & that is saying a lot about the flexibility & power of the program. Can’t wait to hear more about GM8
June 15th, 2009 at 6:57 pm
“That just sucks: So only GM noobs get the next and more advanced version for free!? What about those of us who have been using pro and supporting GM for YEARS??” the ones new to GM won’t get one for free, where did you get that? they just didn’t pay for the first one. @GM can be a 3d program there are some programs that help gamemaker be 3d, since gamemaker can be extended with the extension maker, almost any type of game can be created with it
June 15th, 2009 at 9:41 pm
“That just sucks: So only GM noobs get the next and more advanced version for free!? What about those of us who have been using pro and supporting GM for YEARS??”
I bought GM in 2004, 5 years ago. That’s the only money I’ve ever spent on GM. I think it’s plenty fair for me to pay again for the next version. THAT would be me supporting GM.
June 15th, 2009 at 10:00 pm
If the only major difference is the sprite editor, why not download it and use it? I used it and it is sooooo different. And the instantplay problem, it works with .exe files, and v7.0 and v8.0 (most likely) both make .exes!!! And it’s download if it doesn’t detect a .exe, so you can upload .gmk files!
June 15th, 2009 at 10:05 pm
Oh, and also, why not use lite edition? It isn’t as limited as you think. I’m making a great game with lite edition, kinda like the gameboy pokemon games without the pokemon. It is SO huge. And I found out how to rotate stuff with lite. Just make a sprite tilted at gamemaker’s 0 degrees (not the 0 degrees they teach you in school), and animate it counter clockwise, 360 degrees, and 360 subimages, and for step event, do sprite_number = direction, and it tilts to the direction it moves!
June 15th, 2009 at 10:06 pm
EDIT: image_number, I always make that mistake
Sorry for tripple post
June 16th, 2009 at 3:18 am
Ok listen all you people out there. I believe there has to be a happy medium, like I agree with both sides.
I had a feeling that a lot of people would complain about this, and usually without reason.
My take on this is: if GM8 only has a few minor changes, DONT BUY IT!
But I have read somewhere, dont quote me on this, that GM8 will compile, instead of interpreting, and that it would be written in C++. If that is true, I would spend hundreds for GM8 as that makes a huge difference in game performance.
Also, it seems like Yoyo spent a lot to develop GM8 so do you people think that they would give away this excellent software for FREE???? I don’t think I would. So if anyone wants to complain, SAVE IT! I have a feeling people are gonna be real happy about GM8, and if its a disappointment, FINE COMPLAIN ALL YOU LIKE AND DONT BUY IT!
Anyways, thats just my 2 cents.
~Nick
June 16th, 2009 at 4:48 am
not to be mean or anything but is that first word spelled wrong?
June 16th, 2009 at 9:51 am
No, it’s spelled correctly. http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-whi2.htm
June 16th, 2009 at 10:02 am
“But I have read somewhere, dont quote me on this, that GM8 will compile, instead of interpreting”
You don’t want to be quoted on it, but you’ll happily repeat a completely false rumor with the hope that others might start believing it, too.
June 16th, 2009 at 10:47 am
Dadio said: “More “crack proof”? Nothing is crack proof. Assuming YoYo go with any known “protection” system, it will be cracked quite quickly.
“As for the comments about Halo – they’re pointless because GM is not a 3D game making program.”
Nailog said: “I bought GM in 2004, 5 years ago. That’s the only money I’ve ever spent on GM. I think it’s plenty fair for me to pay again for the next version.”
Well that’s great for you, but not for the people who bought it in the last 2 months (if anyone did buy it). How about if you have had GMK7 pro for less than 5 months you get GMK8 for free.
“You don’t want to be quoted on it, but you’ll happily repeat a completely false rumor with the hope that others might start believing it, too.”
Yes, why would anyone believe that! If Mark Overmars completely ditched GML, everyone would have to learn another language and he would lose a lot of customers.
@Toasty Bread: I agree. There won’t be any problems with instant-play because it’s still an executable (exe).
Can I also ask a question? Why was GM6-GM7 free, and GM7-GM8 not?
~Slammer
June 16th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
I don’t think people understand how long and difficult it is to create new software.
Even if you paid for GM7.0 a month ago. You got GM7.0, what you paid for. The new version is another software, so you need to pay again.
I would gladly pay double the 25$ price for a new version of GameMaker.
I would gladly pay four times that amount to have a developper license where I can embed my games on my own website.
Cheers,
Smon
June 16th, 2009 at 9:57 pm
Actually, now that I think about it, I think Game Maker 8 is actually worth the wait and the price. Why? Remember that interview with Sandy at the Game Maker Blog. I remember Sandy saying that one of the key features of Game Maker 8 was that they were rewriting the Runner in C++. What does this mean? It means that Game Maker might be able to make games for other platforms such as mobiles, handhelds, and more importantly…consoles. Surely that has to be worth $25? If you look at the date where Game Maker 8 will be free frm=om, it is on the 1st June 2009. This is very close to the current date at the time of writing, so this shows a sign that the dawn of Game Maker 8 is drawing near. ^_^
June 16th, 2009 at 10:46 pm
@slarouche: Gamemaker 8 is not completely new software. Mark Overmars would NOT re-create Gamemaker to make GMK8, he would just edit his GM7 program. Why re-do every script when everything is already there? Possiblt the rumors about how they are writing everything in C++ could be true, so then this would be the case.
Also would you gladly pay $50 for GMK8 if you find out it’s not much different? (not saying that is the case.)
June 17th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
@bksonic: I think you are misreading…
“Mark and I are meeting in the next couple of weeks to lock down on final features and a timetable for GM8″
Seems pretty clear to me that *in a few weeks* we will be told what features to expect & then it will be a further few weeks or months of actual development before we see GM8.
My hopes would be on a final GM8 release before Christmas – but I’d much prefer waiting longer for more new features, rather than having it sooner with few new features.
An important thing for me personally (& I think many people out there) is that we’re given a new feature list as soon as YoYo themselves know it. I’m very much looking forward to that!
June 17th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
I have been a GM User since version v5 and dont mind paying for version v8 as it is cheap compared to other gamemaking BUT (TAKE NOTE) I may not update to v8 if you stick to the goddam awful online update procedure. I prefere the serial number update of v5 and v6.
June 17th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
What??? What about the professional programmers that brought GM BEFORE 2009? Are they just gonna buy it again, like football fans need to buy the new FIFA every year? I dont like that.
June 17th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
@Slammin Sam: Well, not ALL new, but enough new features to make any indie PC dev salivate
@BK-TN: What about them? If they are professional programmers they should have the money for the new version and know that GameMaker is sooo cheap compare to anything else out there.
@ Crozza: yes, the Softwrap process is less then… perfect
June 17th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
Just in case you are looking at community input…
How many actual new features are there compared to GM7 Pro? My opinion is that anybody who has GM7 Pro should only have to pay relative to the difference of the features added in GM8 Pro.
June 17th, 2009 at 10:35 pm
@slarouche: Lol, you have one of those too?
June 18th, 2009 at 2:00 am
I signed up the day before that! COME ON!!!!!!!!
June 18th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
I understand where they are coming from I will gladly pay
June 19th, 2009 at 7:42 pm
awesome! this is great news tho im gonna have 2 buy gm8
since i purchased gm7 on 2008 anyways good luck on gm8
June 19th, 2009 at 10:48 pm
Um, how does this work? cuz i got game maker 7 pro but i broke the disc! do i still get 8?
June 20th, 2009 at 2:19 am
If you have your key that you get with GM7 Pro you should be able to upgrade from GM7 lite to Pro again.
June 24th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
Every month children pay for World of Warcraft 30 Euros , Lineage II and Dungeons&Dragons online a lots of money.
Every day children pays 30 , 40 even 80 Euros to purchase one video game only. Play their games and after they finish them , drop them in the shelf and forget them forever. I have seen people who drop an old finished game in garbage. Very sad.
Every day drop your money in fizzy drinks and pokemon stickers , cards, snacks and you are not invest 30 Euros only in fantastic programm which creates games. With this programm you will create games , your own games , the games you might make money for them.
If I finish my game and my game will be very good and I will sell only one copy , I will amortizable the price of my one copy of my Game Maker.
So If I will sell one only one more copy of my game , I will able to purchase and the Version 9 of Game maker.
So children grow up , most of you, you are not children any more. I am not a child I am 34 years old and I will purchase this fantastic programm , because it gave me many happy hours of good programming , game making and fun.
If you are not make money… will make fun.
So I am very happy to hear about next fantastic and improved version.
So this is a sign of a healthy company , companies must release new versions of their products.
Thank you very much…
June 24th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
I am not complaining abount non-free Upgrade and i got book and i got last two chapters only to learn im not learning for abount 2 months cuz school and today it’s end of school so tomorow il learn 1 chapter and till Moonday Whole Book and then start making a game (but first il buy GM 8 still i don’t know how cuz my dad doesn’t trust internet pays
June 24th, 2009 at 5:39 pm
If you are not trust internet pays.
Create one prepayed (Debit) card with only 25$ limit and make your purchase.
I thing every bank is able to create a Debit Gift prepayed visa card for you.
If you afraid if someone steal your card.
Debit cards and giftcards are very usuable for these kind of purchases.
Don’t be afraid , make your purchase and then drop the card. (Or destroy it).
About:Primoz128
I have to say , internet pays are the safest way to make your purchase , than giving your card to the clerk of the store.
Your credit card numbers is easier to be stolen from a human clerk then an automatic secure online system.
June 25th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
Why do we have to BUY Gane Maker 8.
We all got a free upgrade from 5 to 6 to 7. If we do have to buy it, I might not even bother getting Game Maker 8. I feel soo sad that you are making us pay.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
If you will not pay this very very small price , you will never see GM8.
Developers must work and payed for their work . is very simple.
If you worked in a company and your customers does not pay , what will happened to you?
Your employer will not pay you for your work.
So will be got fired or you will be quit because you have not payed enough for your work.
It is very simple, it is business.
25$ 18E are almost nothing.
The entrance in the nightclub costs more and cost for one day only.
This is the program for life.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:20 pm
One more example.
Go and complain to Mr Bill Gates and ask him to give you , windows 7 for free upgrade, because 13 years ago you have purchased windows 95.
June 26th, 2009 at 1:06 am
I agree with takis. 25 dollars is really *very* reasonable for what you get. It’s madness to expect this powerful program for “free”.
The full version *will NOT be free* – so people should really not bring that idea up any more.
June 26th, 2009 at 5:44 am
To let you know, this post was my incentive for upgrading my free version to PRO. I’m looking forward to see what 8 has to offer, and REALLY looking forward to seeing a Mac version. My main interest is being able to distribute games for both platforms.
Oh, and if you announce that 8 supports running the game in a web browser via a plugin, then I will give you $100+ for 8 without hesitation.
June 26th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
I think the Mac version will be a real big success – a lot of creative people on Mac.
I hope YoYo take note of the amount of people willing to shell out around 5 times the price for a web browser version – could really increase GMs popularity.
July 2nd, 2009 at 5:45 pm
i am very upset. my mother bought me gm7 pro for Christmas and plus on her credit card it came up as 30 dollars, that’s like 10 dollars over the price.my mom definitely wont by me gm8… sigh…
July 3rd, 2009 at 1:02 pm
Ugh… and I bought GM7 Pro 2 months ago for 20€ and not for $20, hoping for a free upgrade…
September 17th, 2009 at 6:58 am
Forum DEAD. D-E-A-D. Maybe I should be like those noobs. Who always say, “FIRST!!!” and all happy posting the first comment. I’ll just say LAST!!!